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 Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 01:59 PM
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We would not be looking to expand our indoor offerings into the latter part of April and into May. We could look into the possibility of one or two more weeks, but the winter season is already 14 weeks long. Add more weeks = add more costs. Plus, extending the season conflicts with our outdoor offerings so you might get less people signing up for outdoor as a result of their commitment to an extended indoor season.
And most importantly, once the weather starts turning nice most people don't want to be indoors anymore. Which is why we prefer to end our indoor rentals in early-mid April. |
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Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 10:32 AM
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Would TUC ever consider expanding what seems to be a very popular fall/winter indoor Downsview league to a third spring session?
We've offered Spring leagues at Downsview for over 3 years. This Spring we will be hosting Monday and Tuesday leagues at Downsview, format and skill level to be announced in a few weeks. Stay tuned to the website and the TUC Spring Leagues page: http://www.tuc.org/Leagues/Spring
I think the thought was around indoor (Hangar) vs outdoor Downsview. I'd definitely consider a few more weeks of indoor if that were plausible and available. |
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Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 09:46 AM
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Would TUC ever consider expanding what seems to be a very popular fall/winter indoor Downsview league to a third spring session?
We've offered Spring leagues at Downsview for over 3 years. This Spring we will be hosting Monday and Tuesday leagues at Downsview, format and skill level to be announced in a few weeks. Stay tuned to the website and the TUC Spring Leagues page: http://www.tuc.org/Leagues/Spring
Note that TUC Spring League is a very short season (5-6 weeks), as it falls between the end of winter season and the beginning of summer season, which starts the week of May 21. |
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Post subject: Downsview Spring
Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 07:56 AM
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Somewhat on the topic of expansion.
Would TUC ever consider expanding what seems to be a very popular fall/winter indoor Downsview league to a third spring session?
I don't know if this has been tried before. |
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 04:35 PM
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I wonder why it is up to TUC to create a north divison?
NTUC? MISSISSAUGA?
Then we could have some league vs league all-STAR matchups.
Keeping it short. On a tablet.
I miss the days of the reborn North York Pickup League.
But now that I'm out in outer Etobicoke, I'm a big fan of Centennial Park, it's like a 20 minute bike ride. |
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 02:12 PM
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| Thanks for the quick reply. |
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Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 12:00 PM
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Quick question for JR/TUC regarding members & work/home locations - do we track & spatially analyse that data? Not just anecdotally, but using ESRI, MapPoint, or some form of Google Maps?
We have not used ESRI or Mappoint, but we have done postal code mapping and looked at concentrations. We welcome any software suggestions that can help us to improve our mapping.
Our concentration is heavily weighted to the core of Toronto (over 80%) with the remaining percentages interspersed throughout the GTA (North, West, East). We have approximately 250 active members who live north of Steeles. A third of those members reside in Markham, very few actually reside in Richmond Hill and Thornhill.
If you could engage 1/3 of those 250 active members in a 'north' league, theoretically you could field a 6-team league.
You can always analyse the numbers in many ways, but historically it has been shown that running leagues games and hosting fields outside of the highway arteries are not very successful. Downsview works most of the time, but it is a premier turf field that is somewhat near a subway line. We have to pick and choose our spots with Downsview and how we use it. Our northeast fields for summer league are not well received by the vast majority of TUC membership (Seneca, DVJ, Agincourt, Osler, MacDonald). We had 2 or 3 requests last summer by summer teams requesting 'north' locations; not a high number. As for indoor facilities, attempts outside of the core have failed. Attempted leagues at Downsview have failed, again we have to pick and choose.
We also attempted last year to run several regional summer leagues and no teams signed up. One was in the 401 black creek area and the other was 401 and DVP. You could possibly blame the timing of these leagues but the fact that only 2 individual players TOTAL signed up is a somewhat telling sign.
As I said in my original response, this is not a focus of the Club. But if you can prove to TUC that there are enough people to form a small 1-night league in Markham for example then we can look at it. And to be clear, counter-pointing on the BBS is not 'proof'. Get a strong list of people willing to commit to such a league (ie. petition) and then we'll listen.
Lastly, the comment about fields and their abundant availability is way off target. Acquiring quality fields in desired locations is very difficult, even in townships like Markham (we have dealt with Markham, RH, Vaughan in the past). All of the desired fields are generally not available on weeknights from 7pm onwards and much like Toronto fields they are renewed to historical user groups. Waving money for field maintenance does not work. That is not to say we can't find anything in Markham, but don't expect that beautiful grass field next to the highways or GO/bus stations to be available. |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 08:24 PM
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I wonder why it is up to TUC to create a north divison?
NTUC? MISSISSAUGA?
Then we could have some league vs league all-STAR matchups.
Keeping it short. On a tablet. |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 04:59 PM
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Nigel wrote:
Quick question for JR/TUC regarding members & work/home locations - do we track & spatially analyse that data? Not just anecdotally, but using ESRI, MapPoint, or some form of Google Maps?
I would also be very curious to see where TUC's membership concentrations are. |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 04:44 PM
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| Quick question for JR/TUC regarding members & work/home locations - do we track & spatially analyse that data? Not just anecdotally, but using ESRI, MapPoint, or some form of Google Maps? |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 02:05 PM
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Just saying North of the 401 is still closer to the core than Centennial. While it may take quite a bit of legwork to establish relationships with schools, I can't imagine schools turning down a cheque to help with field maintenance, and there's plenty of schools with a number of huge fields (the benefits of suburbia), so you'd only need to speak with a few schools to get enough fields (buy in bulk!).
If you favor Northeast, many can be reached quickly off the Sheppard subway and 404/DVP, but buses between Downsview (hint hint, we already use fields there) and Yonge/Sheppard are Frequent Service until late night.
I agree most of us work downtown, but who really wants to hang around work until game time - especially if the games are later.
At worst, if there really isn't enough interest for a North division, you can fold the teams back into east/west. |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2012 - 12:18 PM
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The majority of TUC members work downtown and live within the confines of the major highway arteries. The Club has been consistently requested by its membership to acquire more quality space that is in close proximity to the downtown core. This remains our key focus when it comes to field acquisition.
We do understand that there are players outside of central Toronto who do not necessarily enjoy driving into town to commute. But they represent a small proportion of our membership - the majority of our members do NOT wish to travel to games north of the 401.
The Club's focus is on maximizing the experience of its existing members and the TUC league experience within central Toronto. That is where its resources will be primarily channeled. That said, if you can provide evidence to support hosting a viable northern league it is something the Club could consider looking at.
Feel free to contact me at gm@tuc.org
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Posted: Jan 07, 2012 - 11:20 AM
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| As I recall, the main logistical problem with this is that TUC doesn't have a relationship with the York Region school boards or city governments, which are required to acquire fields. We already have to deal with (at least) three different field request processes just in Toronto, and adding another three or more is a dramatic increase in administrative work during the already-busy spring season. |
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Post subject: TUC expansion
Posted: Jan 07, 2012 - 01:14 AM
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I know this topic was visited a while ago but would it be a good idea for TUC to expand up north of steeles. I know there's quite a number of people (including myself) who love the game of frisbee but are reluctant to join TUC because the fields are too far and the drives are too much of a hassle.
Could anyone give me some insight into this issue? |
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